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  "text": "| sub | archive |\n|-----|---------|\n| `r/conservative` | https://archive.ph/bRXi7 |\n\n[Socialism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism) means worker or popular control of the means of production, distribution, and exchange.\n\nBiden has neither demanded nor attempted to nationalize anything. None of Biden's political [programme](https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/) can even vaguely described be as \"socialist\". None of what the Biden administration has done since January can even vaguely be described as \"socialist\". What [remains](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/10/28/biden-spending-plan-what-is-in-it/) of Biden's budget after conservative Democrats gutted it - minor investments in infrastructure, climate change mitigation, healthcare and childcare - cannot even vaguely be described as \"socialist\". Not even the most ambitious project of progressive Democrats - [the Green New Deal](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-green-new-deal-ignites-an-old-red-scare/2019/05/07/6f65be80-62df-11e9-9412-daf3d2e67c6d_story.html) - would have been \"socialist\" in any way. Nobody has ever mentioned, suggested, or attempted to enact a nationalization of the economy.\n\nLabeling the Biden administration \"socialist\" is nothing more than name-calling. This is the new [red scare](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare). It is an appeal to fear. It is not a rational argument of any sort. It is scaremongering at best. People who act in good faith don't do that. Liars do. But, hey, while they're lying about Biden being \"socialist\", why not go one step further and call him \"communist\"? And why not go another step further and try to associate Biden with the atrocities committed by communists? If you're lying anyway - and getting away with it because `r/conservative` encourages you to lie - then why not make the lie even more brazen and the scaremongering even more scary? It's what `r/conservative` wants to you to do after all.\n\nThe photo in the meme is not from Russia, China or some other formerly communist country btw. It's from Turkey. It depicts the [Armenian genocide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide). It's a picture from the Armenian Genocide Museum in Yerevan. This 1915 picture shows soldiers surveying the skulls of victims in an Armenian village. The [Armenian genocide](https://www.ft.com/content/56d61e36-e28d-11e4-aa1d-00144feab7de) had nothing to do with socialism and communism either. [Atatürk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk) was neither a socialist nor a communist.\n\nExploitation of the Armenian suffering to score cheap political points is par for the course in `r/conservative`, of course. If you're lying anyway, why keep even a single fact straight? Why treat the Armenians with respect for that matter? But, hey, accusing your political opponent of genocide is a totally funny [joke](https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/2018/08/29/just-joking-is-no-joke-how-the-alt-right-really-communicates-online/), right? Totally within the bounds of normal political discourse - if you're a subscriber of `r/conservative`.\n\n----\n\nPlease [report the above thread(s) to Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/report?reason=this-is-misinformation) as disinformation. You can copy/paste the text below into the \"additional information\" field of Reddit's report form:\n\n----\n\nCalling the Biden administration \"socialist\" is disinformation. None of what they have said, suggested or done can even vaguely be described as \"socialist\". This is a rehash of the red scare. But `r/conservative` doesn't stop there, of course. They go further and try to associate Biden with the atrocities committed by communists. This is pure scaremongering. The photo in the meme depicts the Armenian genocide btw - which had nothing to do with socialism - let alone communism - either.",
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  "datetime": "2021-11-03",
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