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None of this stuff you said has much to do with the Crimea operation that I have been commenting on.

USSF doesn't have the ability through its prime 5 defense contractors to build anything remotely like Starlink, mostly because they haven't even figured out re-usability let alone micro sat flying closer to the earth for higher bandwidth and data transmissions. ULA is hemorrhaging talent, just look at Starliner fiasco.

It doesn't surprise me the military doesn't want Elon to just change policy on his network on them. They want the tech without controls but don't really have the means of doing it themselves without SpaceX's support.

>I mainly don’t like the rewrite of history because it made some poorly thought out product moves by Starlink

what re-writing of history? Walter Isaacson's version of history reported to CNN then regurgitated by the hill?

It wasn't corp policy, I am telling you its the State Departments policy to restrict access to sanctioned states that includes Crimea.....

Had Ukraine used the proper channels to inform the State Department of the operation, they would have given the green light for SpaceX in coordination to allow access window to accomplish their mission. It didn't go that way, they just tried it anyways going their own way and it failed.

SpaceX gets mainly funded by the US gov't, it will not fuck up the golden goose just willy nilly because it would harm/help Ukraine (net loss in revenue running the service as AID). SpaceX donated more money than the USAID to run Starlink services in Ukraine at great cost to attacks against the system by Russian forces that could threaten the whole constellation causing billions in losses.

Ukraine is getting this stuff as AID with services beyond the terminals but everyone acts like it was such a harmful thing SpaceX did following State Department guidelines is asinine.

>In September 2022, Musk demanded more payment from the Pentagon for the service in Ukraine. And in October, service over Ukraine temporarily went offline, halting Ukrainian military operations until behind-the-scenes talks with the US government quelled Musk

yea no shit, is losing 20M$ a month in services and extra cyber security to work their system in Ukraine really that much to fucking ask to cover if the Pentagon is handing out pallets of cash for military materials if they are using it and Russia recognizes it as a military infrastructure.

>hundreds of millions to billions of revenue could have been refused much less disruptively for all if SpaceX kept to a consistent application of corp policy.

Would you be in a happier position when loosing 20M$ of revenue a month, if they had to be less disruptive would be the last of my concerns when running a private business. Corp policy be damned i would be fighting to get 20M$ a month in the red off my books.

*May 2018, SpaceX estimated the total cost of designing, building and deploying the constellation would be at least US$10 billion. Revenues from Starlink in 2022 were reportedly $1.4 billion accompanied by a net loss, with a small profit being reported starting in 2023.*

so in 2022, you are bringing in 1.4B$ and loosing that in a net loss. Ask for a meager 23M$ (2023) from the pentagon which they got and people are upset? for what less disruption? consistent application of corp policy? give me a break.

*SpaceX's Starlink subsidiary generated $4.2 billion in revenue in 2023, up from $1.9 billion in 2022. This revenue came from $3.3 billion in services and $830 million from terminal sales.*

They just started making money/profit last year, this year is expected to be a blow out year with 6.6B$ in revenue up 80% if they hit estimates. They just hit 3 million daily customers, planning half a dozen launches just for Starlink this year at 52M$ a launch so close to 312M$ just to launch a year. A system a decade in the making at close to 12B$ spent and on going.

They just start making a profit, in 2022 they were still digging themselves out of a financial hole and Russia started running EW on the system that could theoretically end up in a full on shutdown of the project at a total loss. But people are upset because there was service issues or they didn't do this or that 100% correct isn't seeing the full picture, Its a huge project that just recently started turning a profit its not evil to ask for money to run the service when in 2022 you were still a net loss from a private business standpoint. Space X isn't going to play around and skirt State Department directives, they work with the Pentagon and DoD on gov't launch contracts their bread and butter to risk all that for operating in a gray zone with Ukraine front line internet access without direct communications between the US gov't and SpaceX to explicitly allow it.

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