Row 58220

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> No it wouldn't. They have their own arms industry,

That is heavily reliant on US support.

>much of their arms from the US are flagged as defensive only (ie: to stop aggression from Iran, Syria, etc.) and can't be used in Gaza or the West Bank.

Large amounts of supplied US munitions are being used to kill Palestinians so these controls seem ineffective to the point of nonexistence.

If the US were to stop funding Israel tomorrow, Israel can maintain this campaign in Gaza for a while. Cutting ties would likely unlock those "defensive only" arms to be used on Gaza, and I feel like Netanyahu would use this as an excuse to increase pressure on Gaza.

>Israel can maintain this campaign in Gaza for a while.

Then why are they busy ensuring 14+ billion in emgency aid is proved by Biden?

>Cutting ties would likely unlock those "defensive only" arms to be used on Gaza

As opposed to the weapons already contriving to the 35,000 killed.

>Sorry, I forgot I was talking to a child.

Insults always seems to accompany calling out realpolitik's failure and hypocrisy.

>Joint Intelligence Cooperation. Not equipment.

They share both, and losing the US's contribution would be devastating.

>Some of the best weapons in the world come from Israel.

True, but the US has many allies capable of eventually replacing them. The world would be just fine without the Uzi. The iron dome is a collaboration utilizing technology developed in large part by the US.

>15 billion dollars in 2022 and close to 20 billion last year is not just a blip in our economy.

[In 2023, the U.S. GDP increased to about 27.36 trillion U.S. dollars](https://www.statista.com/statistics/188105/annual-gdp-of-the-united-states-since-1990/). 15 billion from 27.36 trillion is a blip.

>And you would rather push Israel further into Russia's arms and weapons after everything Russia has done in Ukraine?

They could choose to do that and further isolated themselves from the west and values they claim to hold. Either way, that possibility shouldn't allow them to blackmail the US into genocide acquiescence.

>why would you think that the actions against Palestinians would stop if that happened?

Absence of US support means Israel would have to make a choice between war crimes, greater isolation, and insecurity, or international cooperation, safety, and integration. When actions have consequences, behavior tends to change.

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text > No it wouldn't. They have their own arms industry, That is heavily reliant on US support. >much of their arms from the US are flagged as defensive only (ie: to stop aggression from Iran, Syria, etc.) and can't be used in Gaza or the West Bank. Large amounts of supplied US munitions are being used to kill Palestinians so these controls seem ineffective to the point of nonexistence. If the US were to stop funding Israel tomorrow, Israel can maintain this campaign in Gaza for a w…
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