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Re: your friend

Is there any sort of growth opportunity in that field? Like, if he's there watching horrific things for 5 years, does he eventually get to not do that? Or at the very least, is he getting experience that might be relevant in other fields?

I'm always wondering what happens there. I've seen many interesting careers, but not this one.

As for the average wage argument from the edit, my position is that an american company can afford to raise the standard of living in another country to at least the minimum wage levels of the host country.

A figure like "average wage for Kenya" is a single figure that hides a very complex economic situation. There are people in Kenya that live perfectly reasonable lives by western standards, and earn perfectly reasonable wages by western standards, in fact being likely more well off than you and I.

And then there are those that do not get to do that.

It's a simple, practical truth in a global sense, that if you make USD $2 / hour, you will not be able to do much anywhere in the world, except the place you are. That's just the reality of the prices if you go to other countries. With that in mind, it is a simple, unquestionable matter of **fact**, that someone making USD $2 an hour is not able to leave this situation, because they will never be able to make enough money to go anywhere else without external help. Given that the entity paying that person is perfectly capable of paying fair market wages in the world, but chooses to instead trap people in an employment relation of this sort, I have no qualms calling it an abusive act of horrific evil. I call it slavery because quite literally, it is. It might not be using people as livestock, but the fact that there are people that do that is simply even MORE horrifying. It doesn't change the fact that both are still slavery.

Whether you're measuring evil in micro-hitlers, milli-hitlers, or giga-hitlers, you're still doing evil.

It would cost OpenAI a fraction of the monthly bill they charge even a moderately sized entity to pay these people worldwide livable wage. The only reason I don't immediately blame OpenAI is because maybe the relevant people simply didn't know, but I don't see any reason to not call out slavery when I see it. If any anyone does it, they should feel ashamed, because they are participating in an objectively evil enterprise, all for what is honestly barely even a blip in the economy at this point.

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text Re: your friend Is there any sort of growth opportunity in that field? Like, if he's there watching horrific things for 5 years, does he eventually get to not do that? Or at the very least, is he getting experience that might be relevant in other fields? I'm always wondering what happens there. I've seen many interesting careers, but not this one. As for the average wage argument from the edit, my position is that an american company can afford to raise the standard of living in another count…
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