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> With some quick Googling, the average salary in Kenya is $1.40 to $6.10 an hour. (I don't know why there's an upper and lower average, did not investigate further)

So your argument is that most people are incredibly, stupidly poor, so it's A, OK for western companies to subject the people there to literal torture, because they pay close to the "lower average"

Ok, so with some quick Googling you can also find that the average OpenAI Engineer salary is $500k+ a year. I guess that doesn't matter, cause it's in Kenya, and you obviously don't have to pay people a decent wage in Kenya. After all, it's Kenya.

What the fuck?

That's literally your argument. It's Kenya, so you don't have to pay people much. There is nothing more to it, you just unilaterally stated that this is what work in Kenya is worth as if that's the end of the discussion. "Hey, people here are poor, so why would you pay them more?"

> If a job is paying within the normal range of average salaries, it's quite hilarious to call it "slavery". By your definition over half of the US is enslaved at this very moment.

No, it's doubly reasonable to point out that most people in the country are living in poverty, and are being horrifically abused by organisations that could easily lift the average salary many times over, but won't because it would cut into their profits.

Like, seriously, your argument for "it's not slavery" is literally "well, there are people worse off?"

Ok, but then maybe the companies paying their engineers millions of dollars a year could take it upon themselves to offer wages that actually allow the people they employ to do more than survive at the most basic level of subsistence, without any realistic chance for other work? You know, let them build up a nestegg so they can eventually go and do something else, sort of like it works over here?

You know, make it obvious that it's not slavery by paying say, the US minimum wage? If these people were here getting less than in the US that it would absolutely be treated as a slavery case, but because it's not there you don't have to care? Because hey, at least they're not much worse off than others in their area? Fuck right off with that BS.

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