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#Overview

Turkey and Ukraine have [been talking](https://www.turdef.com/article/ukraine-partners-with-tei-for-kaan-aircraft-s-engine) for years about collaborating on a future fighter Jet engine that would free the TF-Kaan project from encumbrance by the West or from Russia. Turkey's small [indigenous turbofan projects](https://tei.com.tr/uploads/docs/1692366676_tei-tf10000en.pdf?1693078623), as well as the building of American engines on license for decades, have made remarkable progress over the past decade, but are still a meteoric distance short of what Ukrainian outfit [Ivchenko-Progress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivchenko-Progress#Turbofans) have been doing. Leaving aside the Chinese and European turbofan manufacturers who struggle to produce their own turbofans of this type, and especially the American ones, who are out on their own, Turkey and Ukraine are stepping into a very small club. By partnering with Ukraine, Turkey hopes to ensure a manufacturing base competence (which Turkey doesn't have) can be persuaded to bring forth a thoroughly modern fighter jet engine, able to power the [TF-Kaan](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalPowers/comments/17bjtii/rd_tf_kaan_turkish_jet_fighter_last_one_like_this/). This requirement is an absolutely monumental step forward for both Turkey and Ukraine, and a fitting first move since the new shift in Ukraine's military fortunes. Ukraine are hungry for customers able to stimulate its industry, and Turkey needs the expertise and facilities.

 

#F9-TIP-104

**F** stands for Turbofan, and **9** is the product number based on Ivchenko's eight other extant turbofan projects (AI-22, AI-222, AI-25, AI-322, DV-2, D-18T, D-36, D-436). Producing both high-bypass engines (typically used for heavy cargo planes) and low-bypass engines made for fighter jets, IP are an excellent partner for Turkey, who seek to enter aerospace industry in both directions in the future. **TIP** stands for [Tusas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusa%C5%9F_Engine_Industries#:~:text=Tusa%C5%9F%20Engine%20Industries%20(TEI%3B%20Turkish,is%20based%20in%20Eski%C5%9Fehir%2C%20Turkey.)-[Ivchenko-Progress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivchenko-Progress). The massive scope and power produced for the 104 is substantially more than IP has ever done before in a low-bypass engine. The [GE-F110](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_F110) which the TF-Kaan currently uses x2, produces 19,000 lbf (84.5kN) in intermediate power, and 32,500 lbf (144.6kN) with full afterburner. For comparison, the Ivchenko-Progress [AI-322](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivchenko-Progress_AI-322) which powers the Bayraktar Kizilelma and TAI Anka-3 drones, produces 10,000 lbf (41kN) with full afterburner.

The scope of this project requires a new design of Jet engine in the 150KN class (with afterburner), a low-bypass engine with TVC in the pitch and yaw, with Full Authority Digital Engine control. Initial scope for the project is for a 2 spool, 3-stage fan and 9-stage HP. The engine will have serrated exhaust feathers to help with RCS.

Category|F9-TIP-104 ---|--- Length|4.65 m (182 in) Diameter|1200 mm (47 1/4 in) Dry Weight|1,800 kg Compressor|2 spool, 3-stage fan, 9-stage HP Turbine|1 stage High-Pressure, 2-stage Low-Pressure Nozzle|3D Thrust Vectoring, overlapping sawtooth feathers Maximum thrust (with afterburner)|145 KN (32,600 lbf) Intermediate Thrust |85 KN (19,100 lbf)

 

Initial work suggests that this will be a 10+ year development, with the late 2030s in view for manufacture. This long-lead is necessary for both Turkey and Ukraine, and will represent a significant investment. This investment is suplemented by Turkey's purchases of IP engines of other sorts, for helicopters, ships, and drones, and will represent a significant leg-up for the Ukrainian aerospace sector looking to get back on its feet. This step-change in capability is jealously sought-after, and may yet have unforeseen future holdups - China's attempts to build engines in this class famously took it two decades of industrial espionage, copycatting, R&D, and interoperation with Russian manufacturers. It is hoped that Turkey's many false-starts in developing a suitable fighter engine with Rolls Royce, the F-35 program, and others, will mean the worst of this sort of delay is non-derogatory, but we shall have to be patient, as real production of engines in this class is an extremely rare thing.

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