Row 2333

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I'm 8 years late, but I've been doing my own research, which led me here, and I thought I might share what I've figured out so far, and it is that the Deeping wall isn't really guarding Hornburg itself. Both the wall and the fortress are part of the defence of Helm's Deep, that is, the valley and the gorge leading to the caves.

So why guard the caves at all? Well, if the wall gets overrun immediately, that would leave open the way into the caves where the women, children and old people are hiding, and cut off the route between the caves and the fortress. So the plan is to protect the gorge for as long as possible (and, ideally, not give in at all).

Now, wouldn't it be better if everyone just stayed in the fortress, as it is easier to defend than the caves? Probably, but it is said that 3/4 of the people of Westfold are hiding in the caves, along with large quantities of food and cattle, so presumably there simply isn't enough room in Hornburg to hold everyone.

PS Also, the wall leads into the fortress itself. The smaller gate(s) wouldn't be as fortified as the main gate and would be easier to breach. You say they can be attacked anyway, but that is only possible once the wall is overpowered. In the meantime, the wall would be easier to defend than an unfortified gate, so it makes sense to me to defend the wall first, and eventually retreat inside if the wall is overrun.

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text I'm 8 years late, but I've been doing my own research, which led me here, and I thought I might share what I've figured out so far, and it is that the Deeping wall isn't really guarding Hornburg itself. Both the wall and the fortress are part of the defence of Helm's Deep, that is, the valley and the gorge leading to the caves. So why guard the caves at all? Well, if the wall gets overrun immediately, that would leave open the way into the caves where the women, children and old people are hidi…
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